Lincoln-11th February 2014

Location of Sighting: Lincoln
Date of Sighting: 11/2/14
Time: 19.03
Witness Name: Alessandra Lee-Holman

Witness Statement: Driving along a main road I saw a really bright light in the distance. As I got closer it got bigger and seemed to be flickering. It was completely still in the sky hovering, I drove alongside it and it had reddish flashing lights on the back of it. I went around the corner and drove directly underneath it. It was a triangular shape with a blunt end with two beam lights on the front of it and red flashing lights on the corner. It stayed completely still and silent and I drive underneath it. Then there was a flash in the sky and it had gone. 4 other cars were driving with me and all slowed down to 30mph in a 60 so they must have seen it too.

Source:?www.uk-ufo.co.uk

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Updated: February 12, 2014 — 9:22 pm

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  1. Read the book Nemo has suggested Chris, can it do you any harm? if you can’t buy it get it from a library. Nemo is right about hallucinations in cars and elsewhere. Its in the book mate.

    here’s a question Steve T, Macrihanish is closed, where do you think they fly them from now and which area’s do they test them in? Worth a thought.

  2. Hi Steve T,

    “Do you think Stanton Freidman or Dr Allan Hynek would agree with
    the 95% ‘rule’,”

    “Yes, I do; they certainly don’t believe – see above – that every instance of lights in the sky is an alien spaceship!”

    Unless you have spoken to the above, you cannot presume you know there thoughts on that one.

    “With respect, you don’t seem to question very hard; you are very much on the bandwagon and do everything you can to see things your way”.

    Once again, I have to remind you that you’re being presumptuous, you cannot know how ‘hard’ & I take everything as read, without question.

    Regarding the SR71, I beg to differ (whoops!, that’s me taking everything as read), It didn’t ‘outmanoeuvre’ missiles, it flew faster than any of the missiles the Russians had, that’s not ‘outmanoeuvring’, are you just being awkward, or do you like spreading misinformation?.

    Have you read the full account of Lt Col Andre’s on ‘Caelestia’s website relating to the ‘Belgium wave’, to arrive at the conclusion that this was the F117, or some other ‘secret’ military craft. I’ve read it, & came to a conclusion that it was an ‘off planet craft’, the ‘answer’ is in his report!.

    “And you jump on people here for supposing? That’s pure speculation, and nothing more. What about the opposing view – what if they have not”?

    I’m not ‘jumping on anyone’!. Of course it’s speculation, that’s
    what you & I do, speculate, please don’t tell me you’re so self righteous, that think you are ‘right’ in your thinking, the ‘balance of probability’ theory only works if you can prove your case, I’m confident that you never will;-).

    Dr Allan Hynek proposed that theory because of his work on Blue Book, (& the debunking he observed!)& arrived at that conclusion that, given the vast distances involved in ‘getting here’, that the only conclusion, is to be able to ‘bend space & time’.

    I recently watched a programme on getting to Mars & the problems faced with getting there, (yet alone getting back!), at the moment they seem insurmountable, but, given time, man will overcome these problems, & we will get there & back.

    As I’ve said before, (here comes the speculation;-) what if there’s civilisations a couple of hundred years in front of us
    then , as the good Dr said…….”all things are possible”.

  3. Hi Nemo,

    On the ‘Riddle of the skies’ documentary, a Spanish/Italian pilot
    tells of being vectored onto a ‘unknown’ target by ground control, & the pilot says the radar echo has the dimensions of a ‘747’, then the object makes a right angle turn & accelerates ‘to 5 Mach’ & the pilot loses the object.

    He then says, at the time the fastest aircraft was the SR71, & says it top speed was about 3 Mach, but, more importantly he said it’s radius of turn (at that speed) was about twenty miles.

    An aircraft (just the same as a bird) is incapable of 90 degree turns, the wings of a bird/plane cannot perform that manoeuvre, it is physically impossible (the wings would snap off, because of the intolerable G forces imposed on them, yet alone the airframe), all flying objects are bound unequivocally to the laws of aerodynamics, there is no circumventing them, it’s beyond there ‘flying envelope’, be it bird, plane, whatever!.

    With regards ‘hallucinations’ being responsible for seeing UFO’s,
    that theory doesn’t account for more than one person seeing a
    UFO, so, with that in mind, I reject it!.

    As I’ve said before Nemo, believe what you’re comfortable with,
    there’s no point in saying to me, “all incestuous, same “facts”, chewed over for years, regurgitated, words changed, pondered on and believed by people who look at awful blurred or hoaxed pictures and do not look or think outside the box. People make money out of these books with different takes on the same old boring subject matter and pictures”.

    People read UFO books simply because they have an interest in the subject, I’m not sure about the word ‘incestuous’, but, it’s not a crime for you to sit on your high horse & condemn those who do choose to read them.

  4. Chris,

    Not wanting to go around in circles, but….

    “Unless you have spoken to the above, you cannot presume you know there thoughts on that one.”

    You asked what I thought, I told you. The above, of course, applies to you equally.

    ‘Regarding the SR71, I beg to differ (whoops!, that’s me taking everything as read), It didn’t ‘outmanoeuvre’ missiles, it flew faster than any of the missiles the Russians had, that’s not ‘outmanoeuvring’, are you just being awkward, or do you like spreading misinformation?.’

    You’re wrong; the pilot had to make turns at exactly the right speed to complete successful evasion; that is certainly ‘outmanoeuvring’.

    “please don’t tell me you’re so self righteous, that think you are ‘right’ in your thinking”

    Don’t you? I’m pretty confident in many of my assertions, not so in others. Aren’t you?

    Now this is interesting….

    “Have you read the full account of Lt Col Andre’s on ‘Caelestia’s website relating to the ‘Belgium wave’, to arrive at the conclusion that this was the F117, or some other ‘secret’ military craft. I’ve read it, & came to a conclusion that it was an ‘off planet craft’, the ‘answer’ is in his report!.”

    That very site effectively comes to the conclusion there were no UFO’s! Have you in fact read it all, or just the account mentioned? Remember, the F16’s never made visual contact; it doesn’t take much to read up about radar (ground and in-flight) and its various types to understand how it can be easily fooled by various things, weather for example.

    “Dr Allan Hynek proposed that theory because of his work on Blue Book, (& the debunking he observed!)& arrived at that conclusion that, given the vast distances involved in ‘getting here’, that the only conclusion, is to be able to ‘bend space & time’.”

    There is another conclusion: they haven’t got here.

    The thing is, the Belgian flap, like many others that have been thoroughly investigated, isn’t proof of anything. Nor is Hynek. As we’re both accepting of, it’s all speculation.

  5. “here’s a question Steve T, Macrihanish is closed, where do you think they fly them from now and which area’s do they test them in? Worth a thought.”

    Good point, Max. There are some on here who will tell you that there are no secret military development aircraft; to assume the USAF has not replaced the SR71 is curious. Where do they fly and test? Well, we know Groom Lake is used for that purpose; in the UK, I have no idea. I don’t think there’s anywhere suitable other than Macrihanish (a curious place; I visited my friend there once, getting there in itself was a trial! One half of the base was RAF, one USAF, with the latter equipped with bowling alleys, bars and the like.) Taranis is being flown over in Australia, also. On that note, something people omit to consider when reporting that UFO’s cannot be ours because they make fantastic turns which a pilot couldn’t withstand; the future is in pilotless military aircraft for that very reason.

  6. BTW Max, the video clip you linked has had more that one outing on here! You and I, and I hope others, know exactly what it is!

  7. “People read UFO books simply because they have an interest in the subject…”

    Absolutely; I read them avidly, they’re great. The problem comes when people take them as absolute fact, without looking at the the other side of the coin. Very often, the lesser quality books – not just on this subject – present a sighting with a one-sided view; reports from witnesses, especially those in positions of authority, are presented as the actual events (did you know, incidentally, that Allan Hendry, a very experienced UFO researcher, found that 94% of sightings by police officers could be easily explained? 75% was the rate for pilots) without much being given to possible earthly explanations. I cite your recent comments about the Belgian wave and Caelestia; you ask me to read the report by the Lt Col, but not the page that concludes there is great doubt that the sightings were anything other than military test aircraft, or even home made RC drones or helicopters! Why is that? why not say ‘read the report I mentioned, then read this, which gives the other side of the coin’? Furthermore, you’re keen on the ‘F16’s locked on’ story; it’s no secret that analysis proved the radar had been malfunctioning, plus meteorological conditions at the time were perfect for radar interference! It’s all there – in fact, it’s everywhere. This is what happens in many of those books. I’d like to see you spread your wings a little further, and look for rational explanations alongside the irrational.

  8. “Hi Ho Silver” Sorry my high horse or camel as it is at the moment – the flies are bad as well as are the snakes and scorpions.

    I condemn no one for reading books, in fact I encourage anyone especially children to read them. Except the books which shed a new light on UFO’s telling the same old moribund stories. Actually they remind me of the Mobius Strip – Now there’s Lewis Carroll twist. (Steve T – written possibly in the grounds of Ravensworth Castle Low Fell.

    I miss the space shuttle and all the high g it went through. Absolute codswallop. Have you seen a Typhoon fly? Go to an air show Chris and watch what modern aircraft can do. Aircraft now, and the Russians were good at this, have variable pitch jet nozzles and can make amazing turns. The old Vulcan could turn very sharply on a wing tip, it provided a large radar profile.

    Its not the airframe that that limits flying its the pilot. Watch a flying bird being attacked by a hawk and watch it maneuverer, you may have a different perspective. The US Air Force are reputed to have a plane that can pass Mach 5 and we all know what its called.

    Incidentally, Barnes Wallis designed a hypersonic aircraft that could reach Aus in under 2 hours. That was in the sixties and prototype models were experimented on in a wind tunnel. Now we all know he invented the swing wing, first seen on the F111; what if they (USA) took his design and built a plane. Oddly, very oddly, this was based on a triangular shape.

    Armchair pilots do not suffer from G. If the airframe is built to withstand it, the wings will not come off or the airframe disintegrate in high speed turns. The Belgium was one of ours being tested not one of theirs (Aliens. As was the object seen by Tornado’s over the North Sea and it was much bigger than a F117.

    Still no evidence despite the technology we have at our personal disposal.

    One last thing Chris. If you loop a plane and at the top of the loop when your pointing in the wrong direction, can you barrel role the aircraft from upside down to the proper way up and go in a different direction? I’ve often pondered whether this is possible? what do you think?

  9. “With regards ‘hallucinations’ being responsible for seeing UFO’s,
    that theory doesn’t account for more than one person seeing a
    UFO, so, with that in mind, I reject it!.”

    Jung – a famous psychologist (A student and colleague of Freud (I think)talked about UFO’s and the “Collective Conscious”. I don’t know what this means Chris, I don’t read many books meself – I prefer the web, but it sound plural to me? I think you are painting yourself into corners mate with Nemo he counters you at every turn – why dog fight him. Yeah! I think he’s on a high horse but its not worth it. But he does seems to know a lot about flyin though and apears to know about UFO books. Nemo lay off Chris.

  10. “Have you seen a Typhoon fly? ”

    I’ve said this so many times, and would recommend it to anyone who hasn’t. The best place to watch is from the end of the runway at RAF Coningsby, the display pilot performs every day at 1pm if the weather’s good. It’s an amazing thing to see.

  11. Hi Steve T. Macrihanish is a hell of a drive, flying in is quite easy as long as you watch out for the high ground and care has to be taken in low visability.

    I take your point on the T flying from Warton. I think we will have sightings around Shap, the Solway Firth and Brampton areas.

  12. You’re so cool! I don’t believe I have read anything like this
    before. So great to discover another person with a few original thoughts on this issue.
    Seriously.. thanks for starting this up. This website is one thing that’s needed on the web, someone with a bit of originality!

  13. “You’re wrong; the pilot had to make turns at exactly the right speed to complete successful evasion; that is certainly ‘outmanoeuvring’”.

    The sole purpose of the SR71 was to be able to outrun the Russian missiles. Say you’re the pilot of a SR71, a missile is heading your way, do you:

    A. Accelerate. (outrun the missile).

    B. Attempt to outmanoeuvre the missile ‘at exactly the right
    moment’.(putting you & the aircraft in extreme danger!).

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