Woodford Green Essex-13th February 2013

Location of Sighting: Woodford Green Essex
Date of Sighting: 13 February 2013
Time: 1010pm
Witness Name: Graham

Witness Statement: Deep red almost crimson trianglar tight formation of three lights, traveling 250mph, NW 305dec to SE125dec 4,000ft No sound,no outline or shape visable, straight course directly overhead,clear crisp image on approach A single large halo effect encompasing all three lights as passed over then out of sight over tower block as cloud reflected in wierd hew .very strange,completly out of the ordinary ,no flight path ever seen before,If military why no sound, any ideas any body . no impression as to size ,position lights seemed fixed, covering an area 15sq ft at least, certainly had that eerie factor,lights far to large to be navigional, I am stumped.Must have been seen by others, unmissable


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Updated: February 18, 2013 — 9:04 pm


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  1. Hi Steve T,

    As we both know, this subject is very emotive, I respect what you contribute to this site, as I respect your point of view.

    What I find distastfull is the ‘mudslinging’ from commenters
    about someone’s sighting,

    I don’t believe for one moment that everything seen & reported has an ‘earthly explaination’ & the reason I say that is there bizzare flying mode, ie, zig zaging, rates of acceleration, 90 degree turns, blinking out, travelling at below stall speeds. Not to mention the Non aerodynamic shapes.

    You have told me that it’s military, & we’ll have to agree to dissagree because that’s such a massive leap from a jet
    engine to an unknown ‘power source’ coupled with the gravity
    defyeing characteristics of these objects.

    I’m not trying to teach you ‘to suck eggs’ but have you really thought hard & long how you could even begin to make an object overcome the power that gravity has on an object?

  2. Chris,

    “have you really thought hard & long how you could even begin to make an object overcome the power that gravity has on an object?”

    have you seen an airliner fly? It’s defying gravity in doing so, yes? As are all other heavier than air craft? Have you seen a Typhoon in flight, or one of the many other highly agile military jets from across the world? Designed to be inherently unstable, these planes can perform turns and more that are simply breathtaking. Is it really such a long way from this to a generation ahead, where such things are taken to extremes? I don’ think so; I’m not saying what people see IS military – I don’t know for certain – but surely you can see that the likelihood of an aircraft, flying in the earths atmosphere, being of earthly origin is far more likely than it being alien?

  3. Chris, type into the web black triangle propulsion and Hotol. I’ve noticed you’ve had conflict with many people over propulsion and why large objects may be flying at very low speeds. There are many entries around the subject on the web.

    Also type in anti gravity research. You will find that the CEO of one of the establishments is an ex USN Admiral.

    Anything can fly as long as thrust equals drag and lift equals weight.

  4. In reference to a comment from nemo (and others) above; yesterday, visiting my sister in Tumby, Lincolnshire, I watched from her garden a display by the Red Arrows over Coningsby, approx two miles away. Guess what: no noise. It struck me that, if it were dark, and all I could see were the lights on these aircraft, what may I make of it? Silent, fast moving, spectacular. Only when they departed to Scampton, and made a run overhead, did I get the noise.

  5. Hi Nemo,

    I wouldn’t say “conflict”, just expressing my opinion.

    I understand that in order for an aeroplane to fly you require the following: an engine(s), wings, fuselage, tail,
    ect, ect.

    But, i’m talking about discs, & triangles, were none of the above apply in as much as, they are a ‘Non aerodynamic shapes’ so none of the above apply. No one has reported the sound of an engine (save for some report a “humming” sound) this is what I mean about defying gravity & what could possibly hold it in the air were the elements (wind) have no effect, but, more importantly, are able to ‘hover’ without being pulled down to earth.

  6. Hi Nemo,

    Thanks for the info on triangle propulsion & Hotol.

    With regards Hotol, I understand Alan Bond is still working
    on the project, but, this is designed as a space launch vehicle, so, doesn’t appear to be capable of hovering.

    Though I understand the fundlemental laws of aerodynamics, & how a ‘heavier than air’ object can fly, these principals
    go out of the window were a discoid or triangle shape are concerned, because, (as you know) they don’t (& can’t use) air to support them in flight. Those who have observed these objects allways mention the total lack of sound (save for some who tell of a ‘humming’.Which means that the ‘power’ sourse isn’t an engine as we know it, & that is the question
    that i’m sure has occupied the minds of a great many people.

  7. SteveT many thanks for your comment above on no noise.

    Chris, despite copyright violation:

    A circular, plasma filled accelerator ring called the Magnetic Field Disrupter, surrounds the rotatable crew compartment and is far ahead of any imaginable technology.

    Sandia and Livermore laboratories developed the reverse engineered MFD technology. The government will go to any lengths to protect this technology. The plasma, mercury based, is pressurized at 250,000 atmospheres at a temperature of 150 degrees Kelvin and accelerated to 50,000 rpm to create a super-conductive plasma with the resulting gravity disruption. The MFD generates a magnetic vortex field, which disrupts or neutralizes the effects of gravity on mass within proximity, by 89 percent. Do not misunderstand. This is not antigravity. Anti-gravity provides a repulsive force that can be used for propulsion. The MFD creates a disruption of the Earth’s gravitational field upon the mass within the circular accelerator. The mass of the circular accelerator and all mass within the accelerator, such as the crew capsule, avionics, MFD systems, fuels, crew environmental systems, and the nuclear reactor, are reduced by 89%. This causes the effect of making the vehicle extremely light and able to outperform and outmaneuver any craft yet constructed–except, of course, those UFOs we did not build.

    Chris, you can carry on your own research from here. Incidentally a lifting body does not have to have wings!

  8. hay i just reported something very similer over chelmsford same couler same shape and i saw5to6 of them

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